Makoto Kato [:m_kato] Reporter
	Description • 7 years ago

ja locale has Live Dwango Reader entry as RSS reader.  But this service will discontinued at End of August.  So we should remove it after September.  (And should we add any RSS service or Yahoo US's service?)

	Makoto Kato [:m_kato] Reporter
	Comment 1 • 7 years ago

Should we change to default (Yahoo! US's My Yahoo service)?

	Masahiko Imanaka [:marsf] Assignee
	Comment 2 • 7 years ago

I'm not sure which reader is the best for ja users (change to default or any other).

Dwango introduces some alternatives:
http://blog.livedoor.jp/staff_reader/archives/52278396.html

> ・Inoreader（https://www.inoreader.com/）
> ・AOL Reader（http://reader.aol.co.jp/）
> ・Feed Watcher（http://feedwatcher.net/）
> ・Feedly（https://feedly.com/）

	Tetsuharu OHZEKI [:tetsuharu] (UTC+9)
	Comment 3 • 7 years ago

> ・Inoreader（https://www.inoreader.com/）
> ・AOL Reader（http://reader.aol.co.jp/）
> ・Feed Watcher（http://feedwatcher.net/）
> ・Feedly（https://feedly.com/）

IMO, in my observation area, I feel Feedly or Inoreader is popular in ja users.

Searching in hatena bookmark (http://b.hatena.ne.jp/) - it's the one of the popular social bookmarking service in Japan -  results are:

* inoreader: 534 items (http://b.hatena.ne.jp/search/text?safe=on&q=inoreader&users=1)
* feedly: 2595 items (http://b.hatena.ne.jp/search/text?q=feedly&users=1)

I cannot get the number of Google Search Results if I use "Search Japanese Pages".

Of course, these result is not reflected js users' movement. But I think it shows a trend among ja user.

By these thing, I propose to change to Feedly（https://feedly.com/).
At least, I strongly think that Yahoo! US's My Yahoo is not popular for ja-user and it will mpt good choice for them absolutely.

	dynamis (Tomoya ASAI)
	Comment 4 • 7 years ago

Based on the popularity, maybe Feedly is more popular than My Yahoo and other services.
At the same time, I think we should include at least Japanese language service(s) for non-english friendly users.

So I suggest to include Feedly and Feed Watcher.

ref: Google Trends of these service names in Japan:
https://trends.google.co.jp/trends/explore?geo=JP&q=feedly,inoreader,aol%20reader,feed%20watcher,My%20Yahoo

	YUKI "Piro" Hiroshi
	Comment 5 • 7 years ago

Just one sample: I migrated from LDR to Inoreader, because it provides experience similar to LDR's one.

	Masahiko Imanaka [:marsf] Assignee
	Comment 6 • 7 years ago

How many services can we have as feed reader? Once, we had 4 services (see Bug 649888).
If they can be added. My suggestion is below or less.

0. Feedly
1. Inoreader
2. Feed Watcher

"0" means a number of its property: "browser.contentHandlers.types.0".

And, it seems that AOL Reader is not actively developed nor supported.
http://help.reader.aol.com/knowledgebase

	Francesco Lodolo [:flod]
	Comment 7 • 7 years ago

Note: make sure that you can add a feed via URL, otherwise it's pointless to consider a service that can't be supported.

	YUKI "Piro" Hiroshi
	Comment 8 • 7 years ago

I forgot that. Inoreader's bookmarklet opens this URL to subscribe:

'http://www.inoreader.com/bookmarklet/subscribe/'+encodeURIComponent(location.href)

	Francesco Lodolo [:flod]
	Comment 9 • 7 years ago

(In reply to YUKI "Piro" Hiroshi from comment #8)
> I forgot that. Inoreader's bookmarklet opens this URL to subscribe:
> 
> 'http://www.inoreader.com/bookmarklet/subscribe/
> '+encodeURIComponent(location.href)

I'm not sure it would work, I've only only seen readers with GET parameters
http://www.netvibes.com/subscribe.php?url=%s

Does this work?
http://www.inoreader.com/bookmarklet/subscribe/https://blog.mozilla.org/feed

	YUKI "Piro" Hiroshi
	Comment 10 • 7 years ago

(In reply to Francesco Lodolo [:flod] from comment #9)
> (In reply to YUKI "Piro" Hiroshi from comment #8)
> > I forgot that. Inoreader's bookmarklet opens this URL to subscribe:
> > 
> > 'http://www.inoreader.com/bookmarklet/subscribe/
> > '+encodeURIComponent(location.href)
> 
> I'm not sure it would work, I've only only seen readers with GET parameters
> http://www.netvibes.com/subscribe.php?url=%s

Inoreader provides a link to register itself as a feed reader to Firefox, sorry I missed it.
The link adds these new preferences:

user_pref("browser.contentHandlers.types.6.title", "Inoreader");
user_pref("browser.contentHandlers.types.6.uri", "https://www.inoreader.com/?add_feed=%s");

	Masahiko Imanaka [:marsf] Assignee
	Comment 11 • 7 years ago

(In reply to Francesco Lodolo [:flod] from comment #7)
> Note: make sure that you can add a feed via URL, otherwise it's pointless to
> consider a service that can't be supported.

I mean, how many "default" entries are allowed in the region.properties file.

	Kohei Yoshino [:kohei]
	Comment 12 • 7 years ago

Some feedback via Twitter: https://twitter.com/mozillajp/status/907009038835208192 and 2 people say in a quote tweet that they are using Thunderbird.

	Masahiko Imanaka [:marsf] Assignee
	Comment 13 • 7 years ago

I couldn't find the uri of Feed Watcher. Anybody knows?

> browser.contentHandlers.types.0.title	= feedly
> browser.contentHandlers.types.0.uri	= https://feedly.com/i/subscription/feed/%s
> browser.contentHandlers.types.1.title	= Inoreader
> browser.contentHandlers.types.1.uri	= https://www.inoreader.com/?add_feed=%s
> browser.contentHandlers.types.2.title	= Feed Watcher
> browser.contentHandlers.types.2.uri	= https://feedwatcher.net/main/ (<- ?)
> browser.contentHandlers.types.3.title	= AOL Reader
> browser.contentHandlers.types.3.uri	= http://reader.aol.com/#quickadd/%s

	Masahiko Imanaka [:marsf] Assignee
	Comment 14 • 7 years ago

I got replied from the person in charge of Feed Wathcer. Currently, the uri is not exist.
Therefore, I will exclude Feed Watcher, at this time.

	Masahiko Imanaka [:marsf] Assignee
	Comment 16 • 7 years ago

Firefox for Desktop (ja/ja-JP-mac)
https://hg.mozilla.org/l10n-central/ja/rev/0729352399ba
https://hg.mozilla.org/l10n-central/ja-JP-mac/rev/788b3ad663ef

	Masahiko Imanaka [:marsf] Assignee
	Comment 17 • 7 years ago

And, I missed to Fennec, sorry.

	Francesco Lodolo [:flod]
	Comment 18 • 7 years ago

Comment on attachment 8922319 [details] [diff] [review]
Remove LDR and add alternatives for Fennec

Review of attachment 8922319 [details] [diff] [review]:
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I'm honestly not sure if these are used, but it won't hurt to have consistency

	Masahiko Imanaka [:marsf] Assignee
	Comment 19 • 7 years ago

Firefox for Android
https://hg.mozilla.org/l10n-central/ja/rev/cdb207d16ff7
https://hg.mozilla.org/l10n-central/ja-JP-mac/rev/6d5963ec11db

To ja users, please verify them and mark this bug as verified.

Fennec has a feature to subscribe feeds.
http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2013/04/firefox-for-android-subscribing-to-feeds/

Thanks!

	Caret Inc.
	Comment 20 • 7 years ago

It is Caret Co., Ltd. which is a Feed Watcher operating company.
Thank you for considering adopting Feed Watcher this time.

Registration to Feed Watcher can be registered at the following URL.

https://feedwatcher.net/main/Addfeed?url=%s

There are over 1 million accesses from Firefox every month, so I would be pleased if you would like to use this if you do not mind.

I am sorry for my poor English.
Thank you.